het Scandinavië verhaal.
IPCC, what is "NEU" ? Plesae? By Unknown on 17th February, 2010 at 12:01:40
The need to know what countries is comprised by "NEU" is obvious, since IPCC does not specify this and thus enable the possibility to check their results.
No where in http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg1/ar4-wg1-chapter9.pdf is "NEU" defined.
So, the Swedish professor Karlen did not start this Scandinavia issue without contacting CRU/IPCC to learn more. He did not start shouting "SCANDAL" without doing everything in his power to get information. The first step of the Swedish professor Karlén was to present this temperature issue between NEU and Scandinavian countries to CRU/IPCC, and he mailed them his finding from all of the Scandinavian area.
The answer was NOT that the Scandinavian areas/countries Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Faroe Islands, Svalbard was wrong - which is the best hint we have that we are indeed talking about the Scandinavian countries... No, the answer was, that the discrepancy was due to the "fact" that the IPCC chart also included the Ocean around Scandinavia. Karlen mailed them back, telling them that their own graphic was defined as land temperature... (And as my article shows, the Ocean around Scandinavia shows FALL in temperatures!!) So, Karlen replied this and more to IPCC, but hereafter he did not get any answers… Missing or misleading answers from IPCC does not help the idea that IPCC might be correct.
My conclusion was, that until IPCC can come forward and defend their vision of seemingly Scandinavian global warming temperatures, they are NOT in title to use them in public (!)
IPCC comes public with graph over Scandinavia showing a global warming nowhere to be found in Scandinavia, and can/will not explain further.
Therefore the only choice is to try and examine things as best we can our selves, sadly. We have a HUGE area of Scandinavia and surroundings with no global warming. If you include North Russian/Sibirain temperature stations, still this doesn’t really change the picture.
The Article here at Hidethedecline is a contribution to the Sacndinavian issue, that has been going on for years, see for example http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg1/ar4-wg1-chapter9.pdf and search the net for "Karlen" and "Nordklim" you will find a lot. I might remember some details wrong, but the big picture I think we can agree on.
K.R. Frank Lansner
IPCC, what is "NEU" ? Plesae? By Unknown on 17th February, 2010 at 12:01:40
The need to know what countries is comprised by "NEU" is obvious, since IPCC does not specify this and thus enable the possibility to check their results.
No where in http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg1/ar4-wg1-chapter9.pdf is "NEU" defined.
So, the Swedish professor Karlen did not start this Scandinavia issue without contacting CRU/IPCC to learn more. He did not start shouting "SCANDAL" without doing everything in his power to get information. The first step of the Swedish professor Karlén was to present this temperature issue between NEU and Scandinavian countries to CRU/IPCC, and he mailed them his finding from all of the Scandinavian area.
The answer was NOT that the Scandinavian areas/countries Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Faroe Islands, Svalbard was wrong - which is the best hint we have that we are indeed talking about the Scandinavian countries... No, the answer was, that the discrepancy was due to the "fact" that the IPCC chart also included the Ocean around Scandinavia. Karlen mailed them back, telling them that their own graphic was defined as land temperature... (And as my article shows, the Ocean around Scandinavia shows FALL in temperatures!!) So, Karlen replied this and more to IPCC, but hereafter he did not get any answers… Missing or misleading answers from IPCC does not help the idea that IPCC might be correct.
My conclusion was, that until IPCC can come forward and defend their vision of seemingly Scandinavian global warming temperatures, they are NOT in title to use them in public (!)
IPCC comes public with graph over Scandinavia showing a global warming nowhere to be found in Scandinavia, and can/will not explain further.
Therefore the only choice is to try and examine things as best we can our selves, sadly. We have a HUGE area of Scandinavia and surroundings with no global warming. If you include North Russian/Sibirain temperature stations, still this doesn’t really change the picture.
The Article here at Hidethedecline is a contribution to the Sacndinavian issue, that has been going on for years, see for example http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg1/ar4-wg1-chapter9.pdf and search the net for "Karlen" and "Nordklim" you will find a lot. I might remember some details wrong, but the big picture I think we can agree on.
K.R. Frank Lansner
